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	<title>Comments on: LG15 Live Chat - Monday, 7/14 @ 4 pm PST</title>
	<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/</link>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: will atkinson</title>
		<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4145</link>
		<dc:creator>will atkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4145</guid>
		<description>and becarefule.
pleses</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and becarefule.<br />
pleses</p>
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		<title>By: will atkinson</title>
		<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4144</link>
		<dc:creator>will atkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4144</guid>
		<description>you guys keep doing what you guys are doing and remember keep fighting the order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you guys keep doing what you guys are doing and remember keep fighting the order.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole (Noddingheadgirl)</title>
		<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4088</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole (Noddingheadgirl)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4088</guid>
		<description>hey C's...please please dont forget to post this as a video on Inside since the sound keeps dying!! &#60;333</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey C&#8217;s&#8230;please please dont forget to post this as a video on Inside since the sound keeps dying!! &lt;333</p>
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		<title>By: salbon</title>
		<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4084</link>
		<dc:creator>salbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4084</guid>
		<description>The last time I watched the NowLive chat was great.  They had callers and the live video. It seems like it is just one person complaining here.  I cant wait to watch and hear people call in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time I watched the NowLive chat was great.  They had callers and the live video. It seems like it is just one person complaining here.  I cant wait to watch and hear people call in.</p>
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		<title>By: Selene</title>
		<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4064</link>
		<dc:creator>Selene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4064</guid>
		<description>I wish I could be there but I'll be at work. I always miss the live chats bah!
Will there be a way to see what went on later?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could be there but I&#8217;ll be at work. I always miss the live chats bah!<br />
Will there be a way to see what went on later?</p>
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		<title>By: anarchyames</title>
		<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4063</link>
		<dc:creator>anarchyames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4063</guid>
		<description>my only question is more of a statement.

NEEDS MORE JONAS... ()_()</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my only question is more of a statement.</p>
<p>NEEDS MORE JONAS&#8230; ()_()</p>
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		<title>By: BrightSilence</title>
		<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4060</link>
		<dc:creator>BrightSilence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4060</guid>
		<description>I'm very disappointed with the choice of NowLive. 

I'm not one to easily get out of the IRC environment that has been kind of like my second home for a while now. Everyone from IRC will agree that we have built a very close community that at least in my eyes(and I'm sure others will back me up on this) has been very much overlooked.

There's a lot of knowledge about the platform and a lot of willingness to cooperate into making chats like these a smooth and effective experience. We have the knowledge on how to make sure things turn out well, but it seems like there is no intention of using this knowledge. Apart from accepting comments here and there with the complete freedom to ignore them completely, which in many cases they are.

Fact: IRC has proven it's value when it comes to valuable discussion.

My concern is mainly that the community work is overlooked. People have been chipping in on making sure logs are made of conversations. There are even automatic logging systems in place on IRC. An audio log is hard to make with crashing browsers and even harder to search through. 
This affects not only the people taking care of the logs but also the people working on LGPedia, the blogspot and more fan based initiatives, since it will be hard to actually save this information. Either this has been completely overlooked or the creators do not want to be held accountable for their words. Frankly I think and hope it's the first.

Apart from that I would like to point attention to the flexibility of IRC and the many options it provides to give more and more control over high profile situations with many people attending. Like this chat with the creators for example.
Right now there is actually a fan created interaction system that is being tested for character/vip chats with clean conversation, moderation of questions and conversations, automatic logging, while staying dynamic and effective when it comes to sharing information, dynamic story telling and gaining valuable input. 

The entire creator live chat is starting to look more and more like a press conference than an actual discussion with the goal to take community input at heart and work together on finding the best solution for all.

The creators need to realize that this community is the key to their success. Keep your community happy and you will have viewers. Not only that, but value the community input and use their knowledge. That will ensure the existing community will stick around and feel appreciated, which in an ideal situation should be a bigger concern over winning new people. Because new people are worthless if they don't stick around.
A community viewer is not just a single viewer either. These are the people who act as the ambassadors of your show and any future shows. They are the seed out of which you grow a show organically.

As a lead up to the upcoming chat I would also like to know why this website that is supposed to make the experience more enjoyable for the community is built without the input from key community members. Wouldn't it have been very valuable to have direct input from the people that will actually be using the website during development? 
Here we are just weeks before the final release and as far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong) no fan/community member/user has laid eyes on the new website. So in fact there is no guarantee that it actually complies to the wishes and needs of the community. That makes you wonder if the drive for innovation isn't getting in the way of ensuring an end product that everyone will be happy with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very disappointed with the choice of NowLive. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not one to easily get out of the IRC environment that has been kind of like my second home for a while now. Everyone from IRC will agree that we have built a very close community that at least in my eyes(and I&#8217;m sure others will back me up on this) has been very much overlooked.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of knowledge about the platform and a lot of willingness to cooperate into making chats like these a smooth and effective experience. We have the knowledge on how to make sure things turn out well, but it seems like there is no intention of using this knowledge. Apart from accepting comments here and there with the complete freedom to ignore them completely, which in many cases they are.</p>
<p>Fact: IRC has proven it&#8217;s value when it comes to valuable discussion.</p>
<p>My concern is mainly that the community work is overlooked. People have been chipping in on making sure logs are made of conversations. There are even automatic logging systems in place on IRC. An audio log is hard to make with crashing browsers and even harder to search through.<br />
This affects not only the people taking care of the logs but also the people working on LGPedia, the blogspot and more fan based initiatives, since it will be hard to actually save this information. Either this has been completely overlooked or the creators do not want to be held accountable for their words. Frankly I think and hope it&#8217;s the first.</p>
<p>Apart from that I would like to point attention to the flexibility of IRC and the many options it provides to give more and more control over high profile situations with many people attending. Like this chat with the creators for example.<br />
Right now there is actually a fan created interaction system that is being tested for character/vip chats with clean conversation, moderation of questions and conversations, automatic logging, while staying dynamic and effective when it comes to sharing information, dynamic story telling and gaining valuable input. </p>
<p>The entire creator live chat is starting to look more and more like a press conference than an actual discussion with the goal to take community input at heart and work together on finding the best solution for all.</p>
<p>The creators need to realize that this community is the key to their success. Keep your community happy and you will have viewers. Not only that, but value the community input and use their knowledge. That will ensure the existing community will stick around and feel appreciated, which in an ideal situation should be a bigger concern over winning new people. Because new people are worthless if they don&#8217;t stick around.<br />
A community viewer is not just a single viewer either. These are the people who act as the ambassadors of your show and any future shows. They are the seed out of which you grow a show organically.</p>
<p>As a lead up to the upcoming chat I would also like to know why this website that is supposed to make the experience more enjoyable for the community is built without the input from key community members. Wouldn&#8217;t it have been very valuable to have direct input from the people that will actually be using the website during development?<br />
Here we are just weeks before the final release and as far as I know (correct me if I&#8217;m wrong) no fan/community member/user has laid eyes on the new website. So in fact there is no guarantee that it actually complies to the wishes and needs of the community. That makes you wonder if the drive for innovation isn&#8217;t getting in the way of ensuring an end product that everyone will be happy with.</p>
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		<title>By: CCF</title>
		<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4059</link>
		<dc:creator>CCF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4059</guid>
		<description>I can see it now- the C's in their swanky Order hangout. Lucy sipping some drink with a mini umbrella wearing sunglasses... with a gun pointed at Jonas' head.

(What can I say? I like some of the bad guys on this show!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see it now- the C&#8217;s in their swanky Order hangout. Lucy sipping some drink with a mini umbrella wearing sunglasses&#8230; with a gun pointed at Jonas&#8217; head.</p>
<p>(What can I say? I like some of the bad guys on this show!)</p>
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		<title>By: modelmotion</title>
		<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4057</link>
		<dc:creator>modelmotion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4057</guid>
		<description>"milo_went Says: 
July 12th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
nowlive is not that terrible, mm. there are people who have problems with IRC as well. i guess i’m just glad they are TRYING to be responsive."

I did not say NowLive was terrible. I said it was a bad idea for this particular chat and I said that it does NOT work well for a considerable number of people in the community That excludes those people from the chat where as they would be able to participate in IRC.

IRC has been around since Darpanet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPANET

It is an incredibly stable platform. I do not know anyone who has had a problem with it but if they do it is certainly a lot easier to fix than NowLive which has failed myself and a number of others on every large event.

After the comments boycott the Creators demanded that the chat be held on their chat system which had similar problem to NowLive.  As a result the chat accomplish NOTHING and lot of my fellow comments board members left LG15 for good.  I just do not want to see the same happen again and I have heard a lot of people say that they are leaving if things do not change. 

But it will be on NowLive, so that said, lets make the most of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;milo_went Says:<br />
July 12th, 2008 at 9:21 pm<br />
nowlive is not that terrible, mm. there are people who have problems with IRC as well. i guess i’m just glad they are TRYING to be responsive.&#8221;</p>
<p>I did not say NowLive was terrible. I said it was a bad idea for this particular chat and I said that it does NOT work well for a considerable number of people in the community That excludes those people from the chat where as they would be able to participate in IRC.</p>
<p>IRC has been around since Darpanet. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPANET" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPANET</a></p>
<p>It is an incredibly stable platform. I do not know anyone who has had a problem with it but if they do it is certainly a lot easier to fix than NowLive which has failed myself and a number of others on every large event.</p>
<p>After the comments boycott the Creators demanded that the chat be held on their chat system which had similar problem to NowLive.  As a result the chat accomplish NOTHING and lot of my fellow comments board members left LG15 for good.  I just do not want to see the same happen again and I have heard a lot of people say that they are leaving if things do not change. </p>
<p>But it will be on NowLive, so that said, lets make the most of it.</p>
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		<title>By: gnomie</title>
		<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4054</link>
		<dc:creator>gnomie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4054</guid>
		<description>That's a great idea Amanda - We can finally hear Lucy speak more than a sentence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great idea Amanda - We can finally hear Lucy speak more than a sentence!</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4051</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4051</guid>
		<description>i cant wait to tell them my idea for the new spin off</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i cant wait to tell them my idea for the new spin off</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4050</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4050</guid>
		<description>lol Shawn we should totally do the chat in character!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol Shawn we should totally do the chat in character!</p>
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		<title>By: Shawnslovingwife</title>
		<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4049</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawnslovingwife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4049</guid>
		<description>Maybe it will be like the KM finale and a shadow will bust in and kidnap the C's as part of their new series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it will be like the KM finale and a shadow will bust in and kidnap the C&#8217;s as part of their new series.</p>
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		<title>By: BeccerTehRecker</title>
		<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4048</link>
		<dc:creator>BeccerTehRecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4048</guid>
		<description>Does anybody know what time it will be in england ?(British summertime) I'd like to watch but kinda hard when you don't klnow what time it is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody know what time it will be in england ?(British summertime) I&#8217;d like to watch but kinda hard when you don&#8217;t klnow what time it is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: modelmotion</title>
		<link>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4045</link>
		<dc:creator>modelmotion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/11/lg15-live-chat-monday-714-4-pm-pst/#comment-4045</guid>
		<description>I know we will not be able to record either the audio or the text because of browser freezing. It happened during both KM events so I hope others will make the effort. 

It would also be nice to have full support from NowLive since it is stable on their end. If they provide the podcast and also agree to post the text chat log then that would be helpful. 

That just leaves the agenda and questions to deal with and I hope Miles/Gregg will make sure that is sorted out before the chat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know we will not be able to record either the audio or the text because of browser freezing. It happened during both KM events so I hope others will make the effort. </p>
<p>It would also be nice to have full support from NowLive since it is stable on their end. If they provide the podcast and also agree to post the text chat log then that would be helpful. </p>
<p>That just leaves the agenda and questions to deal with and I hope Miles/Gregg will make sure that is sorted out before the chat</p>
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