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July 11th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
oh yeah, nowlive… nothing like watching the words scream by while noobs yell Boobs!
July 11th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Hosting it on NowLive is really stupid. Can we please move it to IRC?
July 11th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
1. NowLive is a highly unstable platform
2. We have had a lot of problems in the past with browsers freezing
3. It is very difficult to log the discussion
4. It is a very poor format for a serious discussion of issues.
IRC beats NowLive in ever single point listed above by a very wide margin.
July 11th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Nowlive will be much better than an ordinary chatroom - spam/scroll will still be crazy, but at least everyone will be able to hear the verbal responses. Just please be sure to state the questions aloud before giving the answers!
July 11th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
But will it move discussion of serious issues forward? That is the key question in terms of where the chat is held. Right? How can it be productive when browsers crash or freeze? Is it not better to host it where we can have an intelligent debate? Do we even have an agenda yet for the chat? What questions will be discussed and how will they be asked. For example in the OOG chat with Jeromy we had a procedure for asking questions in advance and then people took turns asking their question according to the schedule. Once those were out of the way there was time for random discussion.
July 12th, 2008 at 7:38 am
nowlive is improving MM, just give it time.
Also, it would be great if the creators respond by voice, that’s one thing IRC doesn’t offer.
Not saying its a bad idea, but i think nowlive will be way better if its Modded in the process from spamming.
July 12th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
It may have improved but it still failed a lot of people during the KateModern finale.
We also have a lot of experience with IRC. The OOG chat with the PM of Maddison went off without a hitch and a lot of questions were clearly answered.
It is easy if you know how. EVERYONE I talk to agrees that IRC is a better venue but if the C will not move it, then so be it.
July 12th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Has the agenda been laid out yet?
Is there a list of specific questions that will be answered?
Is there any reason that the outstanding questions that have been asked cannot be answered before the chat?
And for those questions that have been answered and clarification requested perhaps we can do that too before the chat.
July 12th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
As I said we think IRC is a better platform for the chat for the reasons I have given previously.
However since the format is NowLive we are more than willing to sit down with the people at NowLive and the Creators to make the best of the situation.
We are part of this and we all suffer the consequences when things do not go well. Hence, lets work together to find solutions to the problems that we know in advance will occur.
And, yes that does include an agenda and specific questions that will be answered. As we have said elsewhere we would also hope we can clear as many serious issues off the deck in advance so that we can just sit back and enjoy an informal conversation with the Creators.
We already have a number of questions on insideLG15 that we are still waiting on a clear and unambiguous answer to. We are all busy, so it would be great to have these cleared up ASAP.
July 12th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
nowlive is not that terrible, mm. there are people who have problems with IRC as well. i guess i’m just glad they are TRYING to be responsive.
July 12th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
I’m just floored.
I’m gone for a couple of weeks and so much drama has occurred.
I’m not going to be able to be on… and that really distresses me.
So many wonderful things have been done here… there are so many more things that can be done… and I can’t believe that the C’s would ever do anything to hurt their own community.
I simply refuse to believe it.
There must be some other explanation.
And I’m going to have to wait to hear what it is from some one else.
But you know what, I am glad in a way.
The Format that they’ve chosen for this “discussion” is inherently flawed, and provides them with the perfect scape-goat should they fail to answer our questions or quiet our fears.
What a shame.
July 12th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
I know we will not be able to record either the audio or the text because of browser freezing. It happened during both KM events so I hope others will make the effort.
It would also be nice to have full support from NowLive since it is stable on their end. If they provide the podcast and also agree to post the text chat log then that would be helpful.
That just leaves the agenda and questions to deal with and I hope Miles/Gregg will make sure that is sorted out before the chat
July 13th, 2008 at 6:34 am
Does anybody know what time it will be in england ?(British summertime) I’d like to watch but kinda hard when you don’t klnow what time it is…
July 13th, 2008 at 7:45 am
Maybe it will be like the KM finale and a shadow will bust in and kidnap the C’s as part of their new series.
July 13th, 2008 at 9:35 am
lol Shawn we should totally do the chat in character!
July 13th, 2008 at 10:36 am
i cant wait to tell them my idea for the new spin off
July 13th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
That’s a great idea Amanda - We can finally hear Lucy speak more than a sentence!
July 13th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
“milo_went Says:
July 12th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
nowlive is not that terrible, mm. there are people who have problems with IRC as well. i guess i’m just glad they are TRYING to be responsive.”
I did not say NowLive was terrible. I said it was a bad idea for this particular chat and I said that it does NOT work well for a considerable number of people in the community That excludes those people from the chat where as they would be able to participate in IRC.
IRC has been around since Darpanet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPANET
It is an incredibly stable platform. I do not know anyone who has had a problem with it but if they do it is certainly a lot easier to fix than NowLive which has failed myself and a number of others on every large event.
After the comments boycott the Creators demanded that the chat be held on their chat system which had similar problem to NowLive. As a result the chat accomplish NOTHING and lot of my fellow comments board members left LG15 for good. I just do not want to see the same happen again and I have heard a lot of people say that they are leaving if things do not change.
But it will be on NowLive, so that said, lets make the most of it.
July 13th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
I can see it now- the C’s in their swanky Order hangout. Lucy sipping some drink with a mini umbrella wearing sunglasses… with a gun pointed at Jonas’ head.
(What can I say? I like some of the bad guys on this show!)
July 13th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
I’m very disappointed with the choice of NowLive.
I’m not one to easily get out of the IRC environment that has been kind of like my second home for a while now. Everyone from IRC will agree that we have built a very close community that at least in my eyes(and I’m sure others will back me up on this) has been very much overlooked.
There’s a lot of knowledge about the platform and a lot of willingness to cooperate into making chats like these a smooth and effective experience. We have the knowledge on how to make sure things turn out well, but it seems like there is no intention of using this knowledge. Apart from accepting comments here and there with the complete freedom to ignore them completely, which in many cases they are.
Fact: IRC has proven it’s value when it comes to valuable discussion.
My concern is mainly that the community work is overlooked. People have been chipping in on making sure logs are made of conversations. There are even automatic logging systems in place on IRC. An audio log is hard to make with crashing browsers and even harder to search through.
This affects not only the people taking care of the logs but also the people working on LGPedia, the blogspot and more fan based initiatives, since it will be hard to actually save this information. Either this has been completely overlooked or the creators do not want to be held accountable for their words. Frankly I think and hope it’s the first.
Apart from that I would like to point attention to the flexibility of IRC and the many options it provides to give more and more control over high profile situations with many people attending. Like this chat with the creators for example.
Right now there is actually a fan created interaction system that is being tested for character/vip chats with clean conversation, moderation of questions and conversations, automatic logging, while staying dynamic and effective when it comes to sharing information, dynamic story telling and gaining valuable input.
The entire creator live chat is starting to look more and more like a press conference than an actual discussion with the goal to take community input at heart and work together on finding the best solution for all.
The creators need to realize that this community is the key to their success. Keep your community happy and you will have viewers. Not only that, but value the community input and use their knowledge. That will ensure the existing community will stick around and feel appreciated, which in an ideal situation should be a bigger concern over winning new people. Because new people are worthless if they don’t stick around.
A community viewer is not just a single viewer either. These are the people who act as the ambassadors of your show and any future shows. They are the seed out of which you grow a show organically.
As a lead up to the upcoming chat I would also like to know why this website that is supposed to make the experience more enjoyable for the community is built without the input from key community members. Wouldn’t it have been very valuable to have direct input from the people that will actually be using the website during development?
Here we are just weeks before the final release and as far as I know (correct me if I’m wrong) no fan/community member/user has laid eyes on the new website. So in fact there is no guarantee that it actually complies to the wishes and needs of the community. That makes you wonder if the drive for innovation isn’t getting in the way of ensuring an end product that everyone will be happy with.
July 13th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
my only question is more of a statement.
NEEDS MORE JONAS… ()_()
July 13th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
I wish I could be there but I’ll be at work. I always miss the live chats bah!
Will there be a way to see what went on later?
July 14th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
The last time I watched the NowLive chat was great. They had callers and the live video. It seems like it is just one person complaining here. I cant wait to watch and hear people call in.
July 14th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
hey C’s…please please dont forget to post this as a video on Inside since the sound keeps dying!! <333
July 18th, 2008 at 3:25 am
you guys keep doing what you guys are doing and remember keep fighting the order.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:26 am
and becarefule.
pleses