Last Chance
Now is your last chance to tell everyone where you stand. Give your opinion and guidance in the comments below and the characters may call you for your advice. Head to www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15 tomorrow at 6:00 pm PST and hear Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Jennie, and Gina discuss their next move. (lg15.com will link you to www.nowlive.com profile lonelygirl15radio.)
Where do you stand?
March 3rd, 2008 at 1:01 pm
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The chat will not be open to anyone calling in. That would tie up our phone lines!! Can you imagine how many people would call in?! InsideLG15 has been asking for your opinion and guidance for the past few days. Give your opinion and maybe the characters will call YOU!
March 3rd, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Stay together!! Win or lose, you have to stay together and show a united front. Not to mention, look at how all of your lives were before all this. Granted it wasn’t in constant danger and running but for the most part you were all alone in the world. You all have been thru so much and become a family who are willing to do anything for each other. The Order will never stop, and more girls will die and if you all don’t stick together and fight for them against the Order, who will?? Not to mention, with everything you guys know, do you REALLY think the Order is going to sit back and allow you to have any kind of normal life?!?!?!?
You may lose a few more battles here and there but the war will be won!!!!
March 3rd, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I think they should stay together, but also at least do some training on their individual skills. To me at least, they all have something they specialize in, DB is tech (more devices than software, since that’s Taylor’s specialty), Jonas is investigation, Sarah is espionage and undercover work(she is a better actress than anyone in the group, her work against Ted M. is my siting source) Jennie is more profiling/human behavior, and Gina, she’s the wild card, not sure what her true specialty is, bu she may be a Jill of all Trades to make a phrase poignant. Anyway, honestly, if they worked on this, they may have a greater chance of survival and potentially winning.
March 3rd, 2008 at 3:12 pm
I think that it’s time to stop the running around. I think that it’s time to stop saying “we’re no longer afraid to fight you guys” only to end up getting another girl kidnapped/lost and end up running all over again. I think that it’s time to stop waiting for something to happen.
I know that the series’ underlying theme is ‘the innocence of youth’ vs ‘the sins of the father (elders)’. So pulling a lordgreystoke and saying, “We need to get some guns, find the Elders and execute them” is out of the question unless the series is completely and utterly compromised and accepts a darker tone.
With that in mind, there are ways to fight the Order without resorting to bloodshed. There are weapons in front of the kids that aren’t being utilized. There’s the Pmonkey e-mail that Virgil gave them on Christmas, there’s Gina’s memory that needs to be explored further, there’s that Resistance box that was ransacked at Jonas’s house, there’s the old Resistance bunkers with intel hiding in them, there’s Jonas’ parents memory loss of what they learned before they were brainwashed, there’s the FTO over in England, there’s the Verdus website that might provide clues on any other Elders involved.
Exposing the identities of the Elders and enlightening the public on their long lives & lies against their followers is essential in bringing them in for their crimes over the years (centuries?). There has to be something tied in the past, that can be attached to the Elders of the present. Perhaps photographs, or video footage? Once the public knows that these guys are 100+ everyone will know something is up and look into these people’s past, explore it, and find out their crimes.
But for now there’s an immediate threat. Running around and waiting for this Shadow to make the first move is asinine and counter-productive. The Shadow has information on the Order and the other Elders and who William Porter talked to. J-D-S-J & G need to lure him out. Once he’s lured out, pull a Nikki B. and knock him out, tie him up and find out what he knows. Anything will help whether it be, the name of another Elder or something about how to neutralize the drugs that affect a Shadow’s strength and non-sleeping abilities. I say, go back to a Resistance bunker (not home because the entire Order knows where that is now and is waiting for them), lure out the Shadow (perhaps with an encoded video asking what he wants), set a trap and find out what the H-E-double hockey sticks this guy knows.
There’s so much that can be done… but for God’s sake the whole running around and hoping for the best thing has got to stop!!!
March 3rd, 2008 at 3:27 pm
I agree stay together and take down the evil Order for good
March 3rd, 2008 at 3:35 pm
We need to fight the order. But we also need to not follow things blindly, like following Jonas and his trusting of everyone. Do like what happened when trying to break into the Wyman foundation. Have everyone follow special skills and training like Spencer offered.
Stand up to Lucy. Talk to her (maybe). Don’t just run because she has a gun. Take the risk. Have everyone put their stuff on the ground and find out what’s REALLY going on.
Find out is Emma is safe. See what Taylor knows. See if Gina knows more about certain things than she lets on. Ask about her time in the Lullaby Project and what she saw. Who she saw.
Don’t just go jumping into all of this though. A lot of planning is needed to do things right.
and watch out for the shadow. Remember Jonas being stabbed by one? We know what they are capable of. Be careful. Maybe take him down first?
March 3rd, 2008 at 3:36 pm
and oh yeah… going back to life as it was before doesnt work.
Remember how Daniel tried to go back to school and have everything normal and then he was sucked into all of this again.
It’s not possible. You guys know too much already.
March 3rd, 2008 at 4:20 pm
I aslo agree that you sould stay together and fight. Splitting up just makes you more vulnerable. Fighting about stupid things isn’t going to help either. You guys need to stick togther, and fight the order as a team. And yeah you can’t just go back to your normal lives, you know too much and i think it would just be impossible.
You guys should stick togther and fight as a team, that might be your only chance of taking down the order
March 3rd, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I think they should stay together and fight the Order. Do NOT split up. You guys are stronger in numbers. But, you guys also have to stop with the running away stuff. You guys still haven’t told us about the P.Monkey email. Instead of running, you guys should find the Order’s weakness and fight. And no, by fight I don’t mean pull a gun out on every place possible. (You know I’m talking about you Jonas)
And I agree with Keyllen, you guys know too much already to go on with your normal lives.
You guys also need to find out what Gina knows. She might have more information on the Order.
March 3rd, 2008 at 5:20 pm
I commend you all for your dedication to bringing an end to the Order. I can’t image how tough it must be, changing locations often, not having a normal semblance of life. I don’t think you should beat yourself up, Jonas, or feel guilty for letting down your guard. It’s only natural to fall into a comfort zone!
With that said and lessons learned, you all should keep a constant vigilance. 1) Do not allow yourselves to fall into routine. 2) Stay strong. No doubt this will be and has been exhausting. Rely upon each other. When you are overwhelmed, feel trapped, or out of control it’s easy to turn on each other; but a group is only as strong as its weakest member. Build each other up! 3) Seek out others who share your story. Bree and Gina’s family can not be the only family that has been torn apart by the Order. You are stronger in numbers. Find the others! 4) Do not underestimate a grieving mother: Mrs. Avery. She’s lost her husband and daughter to the Order. You may find her less sympathetic to their cause. Gina may not have been out of line to see her out, but proceed with caution. 4) Establish an emergency base. If, beyond powers of your control, you all are separated, plan a meeting place. Everyone who is capable should meet there within 24/48 hours. 5) Pro-act, do not react! Reacting emotionally is a defensive move. If defense is your only offense, you will slowly lose the battle. Proactively plan and execute that plan. Take the offense! 6) And, for goodness sakes, change the password on the Lonelygirl15 Youtube account! How did the Shadow get into the account to post his video??
Good luck! We are all here for you!
March 3rd, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Don’t split up! That is such a bad idea on so many levels! You all need each other! Especially now with Emma gone. She needs you too. Especially with Gina there, she might know so much more. FIGHT THE ORDER!!
March 3rd, 2008 at 5:28 pm
I agree with livelovelaugh, you need to find out what gina knows, because what she knows might be vital to bringing down the order. She dosn’t really remember anything, or she didn’t at first, but it seems to be coming back to her. Just help her unscramble everything and sort everything out the best you can.
March 3rd, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Like everyone else, I think fighting the order is in your best interest. Staying together is key, but that doesn’t mean following whoever has a sudden idea. Think things out, talk about things (not yell! please) and make sure this is really something you are comitted to doing. Cause if you arn’t really sure about this whole “gung-ho, after the order!” thing…well, you’re not going to get much done.
Being a team is a key thing. Get to know each other…especially Gina, the newest member of your group. I don’t mean get to know each other ie make out! Although, if you want to, so be it. =) Just, be friends and play nice. No more repeats of what happened after Emma left.
March 3rd, 2008 at 6:50 pm
You have friends…
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
March 3rd, 2008 at 7:59 pm
i think you all should stay together no matter what. you have always fought better together. whenever you split up something bad happens (ex: emma got captured *multiple times*). when you guys stay together you always do well and can think the best. jonas has the instinct, daniel has the experience, sarah has the cleverness, jennie has the brains, emma has the cuteness, and gina has the common sense. you all will do better together.
you are in your late teens and early 20s and should be having some fun!!!! just be careful what you do while you have fun.
you all should keep your mind on fighting the order but also have fun
i also think you should reconsider your thoughts on how to fight the order. you all should go and make a plan together instead of jonas coming up with an idea and you all following. as i said earlier, you all have different personalities that when added together can come up with a brilliant plan to get the job done.
FIGHT THE ORDER!!!!!!
March 3rd, 2008 at 8:28 pm
You guys should definitely stick together. Here’s only a couple things I can think up now.
(A) Get more information. You already have a tons, but it wouldn’t hurt to get more, would it? Who knows, maybe you can take advantage of the fact that Sarah is “Hymn of One”ish.
(B) Gather up the information you do have. Like that drawing board from the bunker. Who knows, maybe you can find a weakness or something?
(C) Quit telling them where you are. I know, I know, you’re not doing it intentionally, but saying stuff like “We’re back at the cabin.. yadada” doesn’t help. Try using decoy names, like if your in California, say your in Missouri. Also, using fake names would be kinda nifty, especially around people you don’t know.
(D) Whatever happened to hug it out. Seriously, the fighting isn’t cool anymore. Neither is the swearing. I mean, would it hurt you to try talking about it? I mean you can point fingers all you want, but there are always three pointing back at you.
(E) Quit going into everything blindly, look at everything that you know first and then devise a plan.
(F) Have fun. I know it seems kinda hard, but laughter is a powerful tool. It helps ALOT. Maybe buy a fooseball table game thing? Bug Jonas for the loot.
I hope some of these things help you guys. KEEP YOUR HEADS UP!!
March 3rd, 2008 at 8:41 pm
As I mentioned earler, they should stick together, but we do need more of a balance of leadership between Daniel and Jonas. Jonas gets things done, but he’s overall reckless (LaRezisto, Semi-truck, etc). Daniel thinks things over, but he has a tendency to do nothing about it (Again, him and Bree ended up on the streets!) Put the two together, and then we get some creative stuff — such as lurring in Lucy in San Fransciso!
That said, the TAAG is meant to fight the Order — Even when they tried to go home after Bree’s death the Order still saw them as an eyesore. Finally, as Daniel ‘kinda’ mentioned in “Beach Bum” — someone’s got to show the world what the Order really is.
March 3rd, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Stick with Gina. She has some secrets in her mind, even if she doesn’t remember them all. She could know some important info about the Order/HoO that could help you guys take them down (or at least some of them). So when Gina feels like she needs to go somewhere- go with her! Make sure she knows that you guys need to plan escape routes and stuff before in case Lucy and Company show up again. That way she can see whatever she needs to see/remember (or at least partly see/remember) and you guys get away alive.
That said, don’t yell or antagonize Gina when she says she needs to do something- that will just make things worse. You guys are in a tight spot and tempers will run high sometimes. Just keep in mind that you’re friends are people, not senseless robots.
The Order will always be after you guys while you have Gina or Emma. They will probably be after you even if both of them are gone because you guys know too much about them (Elders, the Ceremony, watchers, the shadow, Lucy, etc.). That Shadow wants revenge- if you guys split up and go your separate ways he’ll just call up his shadow buddies and pick you guys off one by one. Remember, safety in numbers.
If you do decide to split up, at least don’t let someone go off alone. Go in pairs/three and always be alert. Stay on the move until you think of a plan to get rid of the shadow.
Good luck guys, whatever you decide.
March 3rd, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Good Luck!
March 3rd, 2008 at 10:10 pm
I think they really need to start listening to someone other than Jonas. The losses Jonas has had in his life - first his parents, then Bree, and now Emma’s left, it could cloud his judgement. He’s made mistakes in the past, and even though he acknowledges that, the Order know what makes him tick, and how to manipulate him.
Also, if something happened again when Jonas was in charge, I don’t think he’d be able to deal with it in himself. He needs to take a break and let someone else take over for once. It’s everyones fight against the order, not just his.
Now things are focusing more on Bree’s parents, and what Gina knows about them, I think logically, Daniel should be leading them a little more. Gina talks to him more than anyone, so Daniel can follow through with any little pieces of information that Gina gives him. Also, Daniel knew Bree’s parents, and was in her house enough to be able to give more insight on Bree’s life at home than anyone. He was there even when the cameras were off.
March 3rd, 2008 at 10:51 pm
I also think everyone should stick together.
When it comes to fighting the order, I think it should be done very carefully. I don’t think taking any big risks would be worth it at the moment. The order is everywhere and there are only 5 of you. Maybe you should concentrate on getting more people aware and against the order. Anonymously send letters to newspapers about the order. Eventually at least one may write a story on it. And/Or you all could show proof to some HoO members. Send a video to some HoO headquarters. I’m sure at least some would believe you.
I agree that Gina may deep down know some important stuff that could really be helpful. Try to help her remember. I also think maybe you all could try contacting Jonas’s parents. They were in the resistance and for some reason were so much of a threat to the order, that they had to be brainwashed. Maybe you could try “unbrainwashing” them. Remind them who they really are. I would bet that deep down just like Gina they could still remember a lot about the order. Whatever they were doing against the order, it must have been working.
Maybe you could try contacting other people against the order. You all can’t be the only ones. The more people there are against the order the better. You could start a real resistance.
The order is not something that will fall to quickly. Progress slowly and carefully. Don’t let arguments or any of your pride get in the way. The only thing that should matter to you all isn’t who is controlling who or whatever, its staying safe… and alive. Remember to continue (or in Sarah’s case start) to take this seriously. I think having some fun once in a while is important to keep yourselves going, but I would suggest you not use getting drunk as a way to have fun. If a shadow or some other order member would should up while you were all drunk or hung over, that would be a disaster. People do dumb things when drunk, its just too big of a risk in my opinion.
When you make choices consider each other first. Remember that some of you are more experienced then others. Trust each other. Control your emotions. Losing tempers always ends up badly.
Be smart. Be cautious. And whenever there comes a time where you have to make some sort of choice, don’t forget to consider how your choice will affect each other first.
Good luck! Sorry for rambling a bit. Hopefully this all makes sense.
March 4th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Ever watched a horror movie? It’s when everyone splits up that they get killed off one by one.
Splitting up is stupid.
And you shouldn’t send Jonas off to shoot them all.
Mind games. That’s the way to do it. Have them stick together, figure out the memories Gina has, figure out what’s going on in the order, look over what you have (they’ve stolen all kinds of stuff, and gotten information on trait positivity, the order, all sorts of whiteboards in various places, go over the videos, the pedia, they could totally find out a bunch of stuff/refresh memory by going on the lgpedia, and even plug for it! I mean, seriously. They have a ton of info at their fingertips. What do they know? What can they find out?)
I think mind games would be the best theme for this year, especially with it being “Revelations LG:15″…. What they know would be pretty Revealing, no?
But split them up, and a lot of your fanbase will split up, too. You’re asking to lose if you remove any more characters this season or split up the group.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:56 am
The fight must go on; and like everyone else, that being said, it must be done far, far more intelligently. Spencer, so far, is the only one who got it right. Under his supervision, you were organized into a team, everyone acted on their strengths, and stuff happened. It also helped to have a mole, but not everything works perfectly.
So here’s the thing: On the field, Jonas should take point; Fate has given him this role, and it is not our place to take it from him. He should be flanked by Daniel and one of the girls; case dependant. The other should stay with Gina, providing a rear cover. Gina, in any operation, is key.
While you’re not on the field, you should take the mindset of a round table - there is no head. Establish agreeable guidelines for input at the table, and have someone take notes that can be condensed into a plan of action - that’s a little over the top, but I think you can see where I’m heading with this. You each have your strengths and weaknesses. Jonas should be allowed to know the enemy, where, who; Daniel should be allowed to know the layout of the area wherein an operation is to take place.
That’s the key, folks. ORGANIZE. And just because I didn’t give the girls a role here, doesn’t mean they won’t have one. Jenny’s good at her thing; Sarah at her own, again harking back to the Siren episode. Gina is our mystical factor here, and to know what a mystical factor is going to do, you have to learn by trial and error.
So Jonas: yeah, you’re stressed. Well, duh. It’s a war, and you’re trying to play like it’s a complicated social problem. Cut it out. Be objective about it; listen to what people have to say. You’ve done better than this; you’re all shattered. Someone, psychobunnie, mentioned “hug it out”; that’s a very good idea to consider, especially now. Everyone is weakened through the infighting, you are inviting disaster.
That is all, for now.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:43 am
You have to stay together! The watcher is following you and the only way you can fight the order and the watcher is if you stand strong together. You have to help protect Gina! But staying together and standing together doesn’t mean letting Jonas (or Daniel) run the show. You need to operate together guys. Jonas you need to take what everyone else thinks/feels into consideration you can’t just get a hot head and do what you want and yell at everyone until they fold. Listen to the girls for a change. They have brains too and generally speaking they get you into less trouble than you do yourselves!
March 4th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Dearest TAAG,
For the past 2 years, I, along with countless others, have watched the videos documenting your trouble-filled attemps at outrunning The Order. We (the community) have lived every rollercoaster moment along with you. I cannot speak for the rest of the community but I am sick and tired of watching you guys in this twisted game of cat and mouse. This vicious cycle will continue as long as you allow it to. And at the rate you are going, probably the rest of your lives, of which, The Order will most likely be the ones to end. You cannot run forever. It is time re-think how you are going about dismantling The Order. If you do indeed split up it would not be wise in letting one member go off on his or her own. Especially, the ones who would be of particular interest to The Order like Gina. It started with two, now there are five (and then some). Take advantage of that.
Whatever you decide to do please make sure: -Every member of TAAG has a say and is comfortable with it. - You do not hold one member back from his or her most dear wishes.
Taking down The Order isn’t going so well…..do something different.
All my love,
Sdiddly (Sam)
March 4th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Stay together! Obviously the Order still has you guys in their radar. No matter what, you’ll always be their target. Why else would they be showing up from time to time? You’ve stuck together before, and still do as new members join the TAAG. Splitting up is not a good idea. Sticking together is– you guys have each other’s backs. Even if you couldn’t save Bree– you tried. Just like you’re protecting each other, especially Gina. Whatever you decide, stay together! It’s the best thing to do and continue doing…
March 4th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Mine is short and sweet. There is too much danger right now for the group to fully split up. They need to keep solid, and keep their knowledge and courage strong. The biggest split should be in half, but then reuniting. There is too much vague info floating around to have just a single person broken off on their own.
March 5th, 2008 at 12:47 am
Listen to Jenna and stay together!!!
March 7th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Yeah,
you guys should definately stay together. Whenever you got seperated, it didn`t do you any good.
And the order needs to be fought. Do you want more girls to end up like Bree? The more Elders are no longer existant, the less girls have to die, and the less girls like Gina or Emma have to be afraid.
By the way, has anyone of you heard of Emma? I miss her..
Yours
NVOR